?'s about anti barking collar

[Brad Stokes]

My nice new neighbor and I have had a heated conversation about my
constantly barking dogs. I believe this to be an exaggeration but I'll
entertain the thought. We both just bought new homes in a golf course
community. I didn't care to be on the course but did want a big yard for my
dogs and kids. I leave my dogs out during the day, they pretty much leave
the golfers alone but do bark at passing pedestrians (often the ones who are
walking their dogs and people traveling on the street such as the FedEx guy,
trash men, solicitors). At my previous home in 7 years, didn't have a
complaint but didn't live next to someone who is retired and home all the
time and who previously lived in a condo community for the past 20
years...Anyway, one of his suggestions that I"m conisdering/entertaining are
these collars but I don't anything about them. Any info would be greatly
appreciated. In the mean time, I'm keeping the flood light on at night and
will soon be installing a basketball hoop right out of their bedroom window.

[p***@see_my_sig_for_address.com]

Post by Brad Stokes
My nice new neighbor and I have had a heated conversation about my
constantly barking dogs. I believe this to be an exaggeration but I'll
entertain the thought. We both just bought new homes in a golf course
community. I didn't care to be on the course but did want a big yard for my
dogs and kids. I leave my dogs out during the day, they pretty much leave
the golfers alone but do bark at passing pedestrians (often the ones who are
walking their dogs and people traveling on the street such as the FedEx guy,
trash men, solicitors). At my previous home in 7 years, didn't have a
complaint but didn't live next to someone who is retired and home all the
time and who previously lived in a condo community for the past 20
years...Anyway, one of his suggestions that I"m conisdering/entertaining are
these collars but I don't anything about them. Any info would be greatly
appreciated. In the mean time, I'm keeping the flood light on at night and
will soon be installing a basketball hoop right out of their bedroom window.

Ummmm ..... so you're trying to be a much of a prick and bad
neighbor as you possibly can ?

Good move.

Ever hear of 'payback's a bitch' ?

If I were them, the first time you're away for the weekend,
your electricity goes off. Tee hee.



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Ummmm ..... so you're trying to be a much of a prick and bad
neighbor as you possibly can ?
Good move.
Ever hear of 'payback's a bitch' ?
If I were them, the first time you're away for the weekend,
your electricity goes off. Tee hee.

Oh, almost forgot - you seem to have left your hose faucet on
out back. Seems to have washed away a great deal of your dirt, and
caused a leak in your foundation into the basement. And your water
bill's gonna kill ya.

So sad ......



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Post by p***@see_my_sig_for_address.com
Ummmm ..... so you're trying to be a much of a prick and bad
neighbor as you possibly can ?
Good move.
Ever hear of 'payback's a bitch' ?
If I were them, the first time you're away for the weekend,
your electricity goes off. Tee hee.

Oh, almost forgot - you seem to have left your hose faucet on
out back. Seems to have washed away a great deal of your dirt, and
caused a leak in your foundation into the basement. And your water
bill's gonna kill ya.
So sad ......

As a concerned citizen you'd need to contact his insurance company and
report said water damage so as to protect the rates of good and decent
homeowners. Of course, once on record, he'd have a VERY hard time
selling. But that would be mean and vindictive. Heh, kinda just like
leaving the spotlight on all night becase your dog barks.

[Holmesworth Crosby]

Post by Brad Stokes
My nice new neighbor and I have had a heated conversation about my
constantly barking dogs. I believe this to be an exaggeration but I'll
entertain the thought. We both just bought new homes in a golf course
community. I didn't care to be on the course but did want a big yard for my
dogs and kids. I leave my dogs out during the day, they pretty much leave
the golfers alone but do bark at passing pedestrians (often the ones who are
walking their dogs and people traveling on the street such as the FedEx guy,
trash men, solicitors). At my previous home in 7 years, didn't have a
complaint but didn't live next to someone who is retired and home all the
time and who previously lived in a condo community for the past 20
years...Anyway, one of his suggestions that I"m conisdering/entertaining are
these collars but I don't anything about them. Any info would be greatly
appreciated. In the mean time, I'm keeping the flood light on at night and
will soon be installing a basketball hoop right out of their bedroom window.

OK, so this guy is retired and is home all the time (i.e. he has plenty of
time). So while you're at work he gets out the HOA covenants and reads up on
pets. They may only allow small pets and you big pets, or they may only
allow 2 dogs and you have three or whatever. He is experienced in covenant
enforcement because he has lived in condos for 20 years. Before you irritate
this guy with lights and basketball hoops, I would make sure I am not
violating any subclauses in the bylaws because he's got the time, experience
and probably the money to make life difficult for you if you tick him off.

[Gary L. Burnore]

On Thu, 27 May 2004 22:54:43 -0400, "Holmesworth Crosby"

Post by Holmesworth Crosby

Post by Brad Stokes
My nice new neighbor and I have had a heated conversation about my
constantly barking dogs. I believe this to be an exaggeration but I'll
entertain the thought. We both just bought new homes in a golf course
community. I didn't care to be on the course but did want a big yard for my
dogs and kids. I leave my dogs out during the day, they pretty much leave
the golfers alone but do bark at passing pedestrians (often the ones who are
walking their dogs and people traveling on the street such as the FedEx guy,
trash men, solicitors). At my previous home in 7 years, didn't have a
complaint but didn't live next to someone who is retired and home all the
time and who previously lived in a condo community for the past 20
years...Anyway, one of his suggestions that I"m conisdering/entertaining are
these collars but I don't anything about them. Any info would be greatly
appreciated. In the mean time, I'm keeping the flood light on at night and
will soon be installing a basketball hoop right out of their bedroom window.

OK, so this guy is retired and is home all the time (i.e. he has plenty of
time). So while you're at work he gets out the HOA covenants and reads up on
pets.

Or worse, since he obviously has time, he runs for and gets elected to

Post by Holmesworth Crosby
They may only allow small pets and you big pets, or they may only
allow 2 dogs and you have three or whatever. He is experienced in covenant
enforcement because he has lived in condos for 20 years.

Becomes:

He calls for a vote changing the size and or quantity.

Post by Holmesworth Crosby
Before you irritate
this guy with lights and basketball hoops, I would make sure I am not
violating any subclauses in the bylaws because he's got the time, experience
and probably the money to make life difficult for you if you tick him off.

Or possibly consider that consistantly barking dogs ARE an annoyance
and, apparently, the owner is usually so used to the barking that
he/she doesn't notice how consistant it really is.

[w***@fw.private.neotoma.org]

Post by Holmesworth Crosby

Post by Brad Stokes
My nice new neighbor and I have had a heated conversation about my
constantly barking dogs. I believe this to be an exaggeration but I'll
entertain the thought. We both just bought new homes in a golf course
community. I didn't care to be on the course but did want a big yard for my
dogs and kids. I leave my dogs out during the day, they pretty much leave
the golfers alone but do bark at passing pedestrians (often the ones who are
walking their dogs and people traveling on the street such as the FedEx guy,
trash men, solicitors). At my previous home in 7 years, didn't have a
complaint but didn't live next to someone who is retired and home all the
time and who previously lived in a condo community for the past 20
years...Anyway, one of his suggestions that I"m conisdering/entertaining are
these collars but I don't anything about them. Any info would be greatly
appreciated. In the mean time, I'm keeping the flood light on at night and
will soon be installing a basketball hoop right out of their bedroom window.

OK, so this guy is retired and is home all the time (i.e. he has plenty of
time). So while you're at work he gets out the HOA covenants and reads up on
pets. They may only allow small pets and you big pets, or they may only
allow 2 dogs and you have three or whatever. He is experienced in covenant
enforcement because he has lived in condos for 20 years. Before you irritate
this guy with lights and basketball hoops, I would make sure I am not
violating any subclauses in the bylaws because he's got the time, experience
and probably the money to make life difficult for you if you tick him off.

Or he could be a good guy that has a 2nd or third shift job and NEEDS
THE SLEEP. Not all people work 8-5.

[Sanford Szymanski]

Post by w***@fw.private.neotoma.org

Post by Holmesworth Crosby

Post by Brad Stokes
My nice new neighbor and I have had a heated conversation about my
constantly barking dogs. I believe this to be an exaggeration but I'll
entertain the thought. We both just bought new homes in a golf course
community. I didn't care to be on the course but did want a big yard
for
my
dogs and kids. I leave my dogs out during the day, they pretty much leave
the golfers alone but do bark at passing pedestrians (often the ones who are
walking their dogs and people traveling on the street such as the FedEx guy,
trash men, solicitors). At my previous home in 7 years, didn't have a
complaint but didn't live next to someone who is retired and home all the
time and who previously lived in a condo community for the past 20
years...Anyway, one of his suggestions that I"m conisdering/entertaining are
these collars but I don't anything about them. Any info would be greatly
appreciated. In the mean time, I'm keeping the flood light on at night and
will soon be installing a basketball hoop right out of their bedroom window.

OK, so this guy is retired and is home all the time (i.e. he has plenty of
time). So while you're at work he gets out the HOA covenants and reads up on
pets. They may only allow small pets and you big pets, or they may only
allow 2 dogs and you have three or whatever. He is experienced in covenant
enforcement because he has lived in condos for 20 years. Before you irritate
this guy with lights and basketball hoops, I would make sure I am not
violating any subclauses in the bylaws because he's got the time, experience
and probably the money to make life difficult for you if you tick him off.

Or he could be a good guy that has a 2nd or third shift job and NEEDS
THE SLEEP. Not all people work 8-5.

Could be, but I doubt it, seein's how the original poster wrote (quote):

"At my previous home in 7 years, didn't have a
complaint but didn't live next to someone who is retired and home all the
time and who previously lived in a condo community for the past 20
years..."

[p***@see_my_sig_for_address.com]

On Fri, 28 May 2004 18:11:38 -0400, "Sanford Szymanski"

Post by Sanford Szymanski

Post by w***@fw.private.neotoma.org

Post by Holmesworth Crosby

Post by Brad Stokes
My nice new neighbor and I have had a heated conversation about my
constantly barking dogs. I believe this to be an exaggeration but I'll
entertain the thought. We both just bought new homes in a golf course
community. I didn't care to be on the course but did want a big yard
for
my
dogs and kids. I leave my dogs out during the day, they pretty much leave
the golfers alone but do bark at passing pedestrians (often the ones who are
walking their dogs and people traveling on the street such as the FedEx guy,
trash men, solicitors). At my previous home in 7 years, didn't have a
complaint but didn't live next to someone who is retired and home all the
time and who previously lived in a condo community for the past 20
years...Anyway, one of his suggestions that I"m conisdering/entertaining are
these collars but I don't anything about them. Any info would be greatly
appreciated. In the mean time, I'm keeping the flood light on at night and
will soon be installing a basketball hoop right out of their bedroom window.

OK, so this guy is retired and is home all the time (i.e. he has plenty of
time). So while you're at work he gets out the HOA covenants and reads up on
pets. They may only allow small pets and you big pets, or they may only
allow 2 dogs and you have three or whatever. He is experienced in covenant
enforcement because he has lived in condos for 20 years. Before you irritate
this guy with lights and basketball hoops, I would make sure I am not
violating any subclauses in the bylaws because he's got the time, experience
and probably the money to make life difficult for you if you tick him off.

Or he could be a good guy that has a 2nd or third shift job and NEEDS
THE SLEEP. Not all people work 8-5.

"At my previous home in 7 years, didn't have a
complaint but didn't live next to someone who is retired and home all the
time and who previously lived in a condo community for the past 20
years..."

Not really relevant. It's the guys home, what time he comes
or goes is nobody's business.



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Post by Brad Stokes
My nice new neighbor and I have had a heated conversation about my
constantly barking dogs. I believe this to be an exaggeration but I'll
entertain the thought.

Having lived near a consistantly barking dog, I can see why he'd ask.

Post by Brad Stokes
We both just bought new homes in a golf course community.
I didn't care to be on the course but did want a big yard for my
dogs and kids. I leave my dogs out during the day, they pretty much leave
the golfers alone but do bark at passing pedestrians (often the ones who are
walking their dogs and people traveling on the street such as the FedEx guy,
trash men, solicitors). At my previous home in 7 years, didn't have a
complaint but didn't live next to someone who is retired and home all the
time and who previously lived in a condo community for the past 20
years...Anyway, one of his suggestions that I"m conisdering/entertaining are
these collars but I don't anything about them. Any info would be greatly
appreciated.

Raleigh Animal control finally forced the neighbor to put one of those
on the dog or face fines. It worked quite well. The dog learned VERY
quickly. I think it took about a day.

Post by Brad Stokes
In the mean time, I'm keeping the flood light on at night and
will soon be installing a basketball hoop right out of their bedroom window.

So I assume you'll be discussing why one shouldn't drink 'green water
left by strangers' with your dogs? People do pretty mean things to
animals and I've heard of people leaving dishes of anti-freeze for the
dogs to drink.

[Brad Stokes]

Now I woudn't do either of those things just to be a jerk ....Many people do
keep their exterior lights on for security and I'm planning on a basketball
court regardless. Unfortunately for both of us in this situation, my
driveway is to their master bedroom. Obviously we're not going to play
hoops in the middle of the night but I'm not going to not install a hoop b/c
it might upset my neighbor, this is my house.
I don't deny my dogs bark but do deny how much they bark. Never had a
complaint in 7 years at a previous home that was in a cookie cutter
neighborhood where the houses were all clumped together. And my dogs were
completely outdoor dogs then, they at least come in at night now. But then
my neighbors worked during the day. He wants a solution to the problem but
I don't have one. And rather than just talk to me about the problem, he
calls the Homeonwers police. But as they told me, they have no authority
over this type of issue. My other neighbors plays the drums in his house
and as long as it isn't too late at night or too early in the morn, I don't
object. My biggest worry was the dogs barking at the golfers and they don't
even do that. They bark at strangers and I'm actually comfortable with
that. I plan on using some training strategies on found on the net but
think I'm going to forgo the collars. Sounds like the shock collars and
citronella react to a noise so a loud noise would set it off as would one or
the other dog. So, both dogs are getting a shock when one barks. Hadn't
actually considered the guy doing something forked up like anti freeze in
the water but people are forked up these days.

Post by Brad Stokes
My nice new neighbor and I have had a heated conversation about my
constantly barking dogs. I believe this to be an exaggeration but I'll
entertain the thought. We both just bought new homes in a golf course
community. I didn't care to be on the course but did want a big yard for my
dogs and kids. I leave my dogs out during the day, they pretty much leave
the golfers alone but do bark at passing pedestrians (often the ones who are
walking their dogs and people traveling on the street such as the FedEx guy,
trash men, solicitors). At my previous home in 7 years, didn't have a
complaint but didn't live next to someone who is retired and home all the
time and who previously lived in a condo community for the past 20
years...Anyway, one of his suggestions that I"m conisdering/entertaining are
these collars but I don't anything about them. Any info would be greatly
appreciated. In the mean time, I'm keeping the flood light on at night and
will soon be installing a basketball hoop right out of their bedroom window.

[Gary L. Burnore]

Post by Brad Stokes
Now I woudn't do either of those things just to be a jerk ....Many people do
keep their exterior lights on for security and I'm planning on a basketball
court regardless. Unfortunately for both of us in this situation, my
driveway is to their master bedroom. Obviously we're not going to play
hoops in the middle of the night but I'm not going to not install a hoop b/c
it might upset my neighbor, this is my house.

The latter is fair.

Post by Brad Stokes
I don't deny my dogs bark but do deny how much they bark.

Like I said, you likely don't realise how much is too much. It really
is understandable.

Post by Brad Stokes
Never had a
complaint in 7 years at a previous home that was in a cookie cutter
neighborhood where the houses were all clumped together. And my dogs were
completely outdoor dogs then, they at least come in at night now.

Yes, but did your immediate neighbors stay home all day like this guy
does? I do contract work so I can be home in the daytime. The
neighbor whos dog barked all day would let it out on the way out the
door to work and let it in when they got home. Bark Bark Bark Bark
Bark Bark Bark. All damn day. But of course, since everyone else in
the neighborhood had to drive to RTP or somewhere, no one noticed.

Post by Brad Stokes
But then
my neighbors worked during the day. He wants a solution to the problem but
I don't have one. And rather than just talk to me about the problem, he
calls the Homeonwers police. But as they told me, they have no authority
over this type of issue. My other neighbors plays the drums in his house
and as long as it isn't too late at night or too early in the morn, I don't
object. My biggest worry was the dogs barking at the golfers and they don't
even do that. They bark at strangers and I'm actually comfortable with
that. I plan on using some training strategies on found on the net but
think I'm going to forgo the collars. Sounds like the shock collars and
citronella react to a noise so a loud noise would set it off as would one or
the other dog. So, both dogs are getting a shock when one barks. Hadn't
actually considered the guy doing something forked up like anti freeze in
the water but people are forked up these days.

I could see someone doing it just because you top post.

[p***@see_my_sig_for_address.com]

Post by Brad Stokes
Now I woudn't do either of those things just to be a jerk ....Many people do
keep their exterior lights on for security and I'm planning on a basketball
court regardless. Unfortunately for both of us in this situation, my
driveway is to their master bedroom. Obviously we're not going to play
hoops in the middle of the night but I'm not going to not install a hoop b/c
it might upset my neighbor, this is my house.

Can you say 'ground glass on the court' ? :-)

Post by Brad Stokes
I don't deny my dogs bark but do deny how much they bark. Never had a
complaint in 7 years at a previous home that was in a cookie cutter
neighborhood where the houses were all clumped together. And my dogs were
completely outdoor dogs then, they at least come in at night now. But then
my neighbors worked during the day. He wants a solution to the problem but
I don't have one. And rather than just talk to me about the problem, he
calls the Homeonwers police. But as they told me, they have no authority

You sound like the kind of prick no one can talk to. I bet he
tried once, and you got a bug up your ass, so he said 'OK, fuck
dealing with this guy'.



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[Brad Stokes]

Actually I've been nothing but nice to this couple. Offered to help when
the moving truck came, they invited me over for a drink. Offered my truck
to haul boxes and what not to the dump. Offered advice for places to go for
things like plants (Broadwells), etc. He is actually the guy who seems to
be an a'hole. He didn't even come talk to me until tonight and probably
only b/c he's having out of town guests in for the weekend.
What would you do in my situation?
I'm definitely trying to be open about the dogs barking more than I think
they do. Thinking about recording a random day or two.

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Post by Brad Stokes
Now I woudn't do either of those things just to be a jerk ....Many people do
keep their exterior lights on for security and I'm planning on a basketball
court regardless. Unfortunately for both of us in this situation, my
driveway is to their master bedroom. Obviously we're not going to play
hoops in the middle of the night but I'm not going to not install a hoop b/c
it might upset my neighbor, this is my house.

Can you say 'ground glass on the court' ? :-)

Post by Brad Stokes
I don't deny my dogs bark but do deny how much they bark. Never had a
complaint in 7 years at a previous home that was in a cookie cutter
neighborhood where the houses were all clumped together. And my dogs were
completely outdoor dogs then, they at least come in at night now. But then
my neighbors worked during the day. He wants a solution to the problem but
I don't have one. And rather than just talk to me about the problem, he
calls the Homeonwers police. But as they told me, they have no authority

You sound like the kind of prick no one can talk to. I bet he
tried once, and you got a bug up your ass, so he said 'OK, fuck
dealing with this guy'.
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
HVAC/R program for Palm PDA's
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[Gary L. Burnore]

Post by Brad Stokes
Actually I've been nothing but nice to this couple.

Please be nice to us and stop top posting.

[p***@see_my_sig_for_address.com]

Post by Brad Stokes
Actually I've been nothing but nice to this couple. Offered to help when
the moving truck came, they invited me over for a drink. Offered my truck
to haul boxes and what not to the dump. Offered advice for places to go for
things like plants (Broadwells), etc. He is actually the guy who seems to
be an a'hole. He didn't even come talk to me until tonight and probably
only b/c he's having out of town guests in for the weekend.
What would you do in my situation?

Well, if he's the a'hole, I suppose I'd just ignore him.
assuming my dogs weren't really maing that much noise, that is.

I had to have a neighbor choose between getting evicted or
getting rid of her new dog once. I hated like hell to do it, but this
German Shepard would literally bark non-stop while she was out all
day. She refused to even attempt to come to any kind of accomodation,
and got pissy about it, so I had to turn to the landlord, who agreed
about the barking after seeing it happen herself.

You do understand, they way you started this thread, you sure
sounded like you were the one being the antagonist ....

Post by Brad Stokes
I'm definitely trying to be open about the dogs barking more than I think
they do. Thinking about recording a random day or two.

Post by p***@see_my_sig_for_address.com

Post by Brad Stokes
Now I woudn't do either of those things just to be a jerk ....Many people

do

Post by p***@see_my_sig_for_address.com

Post by Brad Stokes
keep their exterior lights on for security and I'm planning on a

basketball

Post by p***@see_my_sig_for_address.com

Post by Brad Stokes
court regardless. Unfortunately for both of us in this situation, my
driveway is to their master bedroom. Obviously we're not going to play
hoops in the middle of the night but I'm not going to not install a hoop

b/c

Post by p***@see_my_sig_for_address.com

Post by Brad Stokes
it might upset my neighbor, this is my house.

Can you say 'ground glass on the court' ? :-)

Post by Brad Stokes
I don't deny my dogs bark but do deny how much they bark. Never had a
complaint in 7 years at a previous home that was in a cookie cutter
neighborhood where the houses were all clumped together. And my dogs

were

Post by p***@see_my_sig_for_address.com

Post by Brad Stokes
completely outdoor dogs then, they at least come in at night now. But

then

Post by p***@see_my_sig_for_address.com

Post by Brad Stokes
my neighbors worked during the day. He wants a solution to the problem

but

Post by p***@see_my_sig_for_address.com

Post by Brad Stokes
I don't have one. And rather than just talk to me about the problem, he
calls the Homeonwers police. But as they told me, they have no authority

You sound like the kind of prick no one can talk to. I bet he
tried once, and you got a bug up your ass, so he said 'OK, fuck
dealing with this guy'.
'Some days, it's just not worth chewing through the restraints.'
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Post by Brad Stokes
Now I woudn't do either of those things just to be a jerk ....Many people do
keep their exterior lights on for security and I'm planning on a basketball
court regardless. Unfortunately for both of us in this situation, my
driveway is to their master bedroom. Obviously we're not going to play
hoops in the middle of the night but I'm not going to not install a hoop b/c
it might upset my neighbor, this is my house.

Can you say 'ground glass on the court' ? :-)

Post by Brad Stokes
I don't deny my dogs bark but do deny how much they bark. Never had a
complaint in 7 years at a previous home that was in a cookie cutter
neighborhood where the houses were all clumped together. And my dogs were
completely outdoor dogs then, they at least come in at night now. But then
my neighbors worked during the day. He wants a solution to the problem but
I don't have one. And rather than just talk to me about the problem, he
calls the Homeonwers police. But as they told me, they have no authority

You sound like the kind of prick no one can talk to. I bet he
tried once, and you got a bug up your ass, so he said 'OK, fuck
dealing with this guy'.

Gee Paul. He could be related to you based on that description. :-)

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[Raleighgirl]

| "Brad Stokes" <***@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
| news:aAxtc.3075$%***@twister.southeast.rr.com...
| > My nice new neighbor and I have had a heated conversation
about my
| > constantly barking dogs. I believe this to be an
exaggeration but I'll
| > entertain the thought. We both just bought new homes in a
golf course
| > community. I didn't care to be on the course but did want a
big yard for
| my
| > dogs and kids. I leave my dogs out during the day, they
pretty much leave
| > the golfers alone but do bark at passing pedestrians (often
the ones who
| are
| > walking their dogs and people traveling on the street such as
the FedEx
| guy,
| > trash men, solicitors). At my previous home in 7 years,
didn't have a
| > complaint but didn't live next to someone who is retired and
home all the
| > time and who previously lived in a condo community for the
past 20
| > years...Anyway, one of his suggestions that I"m
conisdering/entertaining
| are
| > these collars but I don't anything about them. Any info would
be greatly
| > appreciated. In the mean time, I'm keeping the flood light
on at night
| and
| > will soon be installing a basketball hoop right out of their
bedroom
| window.
| >|
Brad,
I'm a work-at-homer, too. A dog that barks alot is very
disruptive and aggravating. I would encourage you to try to get
the dog to quit barking. It's my understanding that you can't
make a dog quit "stranger alert" kind of barking but you can get
them to stop the "I'm bored" barking with a bark collar (I'm
sure our resident dog expert, Susan can clarify this). Another
idea is a muzzle. If you're in suburbia you don't have to worry
about the dog being eaten by other animals, etc so maybe it's
worth a try. I'd try to pacify rather than piss off the
neighbor; a long, on-going feud amongst neighbors can be
exhausting and a lesson in frustration.
Jenny

[C G]

Post by Brad Stokes
Now I woudn't do either of those things just to be a jerk ....Many people do
keep their exterior lights on for security

Use a motion sensor light so it doesn't glare all night long.

[xyzzy]

Post by Brad Stokes
I don't deny my dogs bark but do deny how much they bark.

You've probably got used to it and tuned it out, and really don't know
how annoying it is. I see the same thing with parents whose kids make
noise in resturaunts. You live with it every day and love the creatore
that generates the noise, so you don't see how much it bothers people.
Why can't you keep your dogs inside when you aren't home?

If you are REALLY sure you're in the right, don't worry about it. Let
him call animal control. They'll come out, see that the dogs aren't a
problem, and start ignoring this guy. I know someone for whom this
worked well. Neighbor complained about barking. Animal control came,
found dogs snoozing on the back porch in the fenced yard. The officer
called to them and they looked at her and went back to sleep. Problem
solved. Neighbor's complaints fell on deaf ears after that.

However this friend lived on a greenway and suspected the real problem
was people walking down the greenway provoking the dogs through the
fence. You say you are on a golf course. Maybe you should consider this
possibility, especially since you aren't home to witness it.

Or better yet, keep your dogs inside. It's better for them, better for
your neighors, and they are better security that way anyway (someone can
break into your front door while they are penned in the back yard y'know).

[Susan Hogarth]

I can't find the beginning of this thread, but just let me point out another
type of anti-bark collar which uses citronellla bursts rather than electricity:

http://www.fuzzytummy.com/tellmebarking.htm

There are several brands, and this is an ad for one. You should compare among
them if interested; I've seen them on e-bay for $75 or less.

--
Susan Hogarth
"The reason we can't find a relationship between the Constitution and the
government is that there is none." - Michael Badnarik
Badnarik for President : http://www.badnarik.org

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Post by Brad Stokes
My nice new neighbor and I have had a heated conversation about my
constantly barking dogs. I believe this to be an exaggeration but I'll
entertain the thought. We both just bought new homes in a golf course
community. I didn't care to be on the course but did want a big yard for my
dogs and kids. I leave my dogs out during the day, they pretty much leave
the golfers alone but do bark at passing pedestrians (often the ones who are
walking their dogs and people traveling on the street such as the FedEx guy,
trash men, solicitors). At my previous home in 7 years, didn't have a
complaint but didn't live next to someone who is retired and home all the
time and who previously lived in a condo community for the past 20
years...Anyway, one of his suggestions that I"m conisdering/entertaining are
these collars but I don't anything about them. Any info would be greatly
appreciated. In the mean time, I'm keeping the flood light on at night and
will soon be installing a basketball hoop right out of their bedroom window.

Yes the collars work. My neighbor got one for his mutt when he figured
out I was going to knock on his door at midnight and tell him when they
did. You could tell when the batteries ran down because he would slowly
start back barking.

He "suggested" I might not want to knock on his door at that time of
night. I "suggested" he might spend the rest of the night in jail if he
acted on his suggestion and I would be there when the dog barked. He
got the collar. Thankfully that neighbor and dog are long gone.

There are noise ordinances they can invoke if you shoot hoops at
midnight.

And yes your dogs are probably pests if they bark at anything that
moves. You are not there so you don't know. Don't be a jerk be a good
neighbor.

Currently have a nearby dog that is fairly quiet, but occassionally they
leave the dog out and they leave and don't return until after dark.
Something about being out after dark really drives this lovable dog
crazy and she barks almost continuously until they come home. I have
tried consoling her, but it only works while I am beside her. Seldom
happens, I like the dog and neighbors and they are home well before
bedtime so I tolerate it. But if it was on a regular basis then I would
have to say something.

[david gourley]

Post by Brad Stokes
My nice new neighbor and I have had a heated conversation about my
constantly barking dogs. I believe this to be an exaggeration but
I'll entertain the thought. We both just bought new homes in a golf
course community. I didn't care to be on the course but did want a
big yard for my dogs and kids. I leave my dogs out during the day,
they pretty much leave the golfers alone but do bark at passing
pedestrians (often the ones who are walking their dogs and people
traveling on the street such as the FedEx guy, trash men, solicitors).
At my previous home in 7 years, didn't have a complaint but didn't
live next to someone who is retired and home all the time and who
previously lived in a condo community for the past 20 years...Anyway,
one of his suggestions that I"m conisdering/entertaining are these
collars but I don't anything about them. Any info would be greatly
appreciated. In the mean time, I'm keeping the flood light on at
night and will soon be installing a basketball hoop right out of their
bedroom window.

We used a similar collar like that on our kid when he was getting into a
little trouble (teens, you know). Tom Gauldin recommended it in this
group awhile back saying how well it worked for his. That was good
enough for us, and now we're a happy family again.

I'd turn the voltage down for the dog, though.

hth,
david

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